Friday, August 12, 2005

上頭的智慧

James 3:13-18 Two Kinds of Wisdom

We did this week's QT on Friday because both Terence and Michelle have to go to Pre-teens Summer Camp on 20-21 Aug, 2005.

After we have taken a OISHII Japanese ZaruSoba cooked by Wati, we started our QT.

Terence shared, "I have learned that the true wisdom is from heaven."

"Have you ever experienced any heavenly wisdom. If yes, please tell me what is it?"

"No."

"Then, do you know where you can learn the heavenly wisdom?"

"beeeebllllllee" Terence replied in his usual unclean voice with his tricky tone.

"Yes, you have been going to church for about 6 years. Do you have your most favorite bible words to share with us?" Bonnie teared Terence that his Bible is badly wearing down so he should have been very serious in reading Bible.

"Wait, my most favorite bible words are at Revelation 20:7-10. Mom, why most people feel Revelation is very difficult, it is easy for me. I also dont understand why adult dont read Revelation with us?"

"I think it is your own choice. You can read any chapter or book at anytime when you feel right to read them."

Terence started to read aloud Revelation 20:7-10 to us. "..........Lake of Fire! Everybody has to go to Lake of Fire!"

Bonnie asked, "Other than the Lake of Fire, are there any other places to go?"

"River of Lives!" Terence replied.

"Well, where is your choice?"

"River of Lives."

"In order to be there, what is necessary?"

"Believe in God."

"Yes, you are right but it sounds to me that something is still missing?"

Michelle shouted, "Baptism!"

"Yes, Baptism." Terence repeated.

" Terence, how much have you read the Revelation?"

"I have completed the whole book of Relevation. I read it in pre-teens QT. Oh! No, I should say when pre-teens QT, I did not read the assigned book but read the Revelation on my own."

Michelle shared, " I like v3:17 where says - the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure, then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercey and good fruit, impartial and sincere."

"I like to ask the same question as I put forward to Terence. Have you ever experienced any heavenly wisdom." Bonnie asked Michelle.

"I would like to say, I am quite CONSIDERATE."

"Great! If both of you like to pick a heavenly wisdom to learn and apply in your daily lives, what would that be?"

"I'd like to pick peace-loving and if posisble to apply in the pre-teens group." answered Michelle.
"Would it be more challenge if you can start applying at home for the relationship with your brother." Bonnie asked.

A silence from Michelle (I let her thinking flows within her heart.......)

"I want to pick GOOD FRUIT." Terence said.

"Mom, in last pre-teens' class, Auntie Elaine has chosen a scripture about "The Fruit of Spirit" to teach us about temptation. Please help me to find where is the scripture?" Michelle jumped into Terence's sharing.

"It is Galatians 5:22-23." I said.

"Let's get back to Terence. What does Good Fruit mean to you." Bonnie asked.

"To teach other young people something I know."

"Do you mean guitar?"

Terence replied with a nob.

"If this good fruit implies to a more spiritual sense, what would it be?"

"Then, I will teach other young people to know the teaching of the good fruit."

"That makes sense to me." and then Bonnie closed the QT.

Sunday, July 31, 2005

歉卑、信實及犧牲

  • Courageous to be Humble
  • Courageous to be Faith (in Standard; all the time)
  • Courageous to be Lost

Saturday, July 30, 2005

由心至舌頭

James 3:1-12

We started today's QT by reviewing last week's conviction of "Put faith into action". Michelle said she has begun her Maths homework. She is happy that the first step in ACTION promotes her PERSERVERANCE which she has learnt in James Chapter one. Terence has completed one new song which makes a total of 3 out of his targetted 6 songs for this summer holiday. They both commented that put faith in action brings them a sense of success and fulfillment.

Michelle shared v3:6, " If the tongue is the evil part of the body, I don't want to use it to hurt people. Instead, I want to use it to say something could ENCOURAGE and APPRECIATE others. Moreover, to think before I speak could help a lot."

Terence likes v3:10, " Prasie and curse cannot come from the same tongue. If I have to choose, of course I will chose to praise."

"It's not necessary everybody will choose praise. That reflects you like to embrace praise."Bonnie added.

Bonnie found Terence is a silent boy and like to encourage him to say more praise out from his heart. After some discussion, we found Terence is lacking of FAITH in himself. His holding back attitude always leads him not to move forward. Bonnie tried to connect his successful confidence in playing guitar to use his tongue in praises.

"Terence, how many songs you have targetted to compose during the summer holiday?"

He put up a finger sign of "6"

"How do you like the progress?" Bonnie asked.

"My freinds are of out town so it seems difficult to complete."

"Well, when you set your target, do you have a feeling that you can complete them?"

"Yes, I do."

"Good, close your eyes. Retrieve that feeling and feel it again."

Terence was naughtily playing his eyes as an open eyed blind man. He was cute.

"How many songs you have completed up to today?"

"3" he continued closing his eyes.

"Great, at least you have completed 3 songs without your friends around you. Don't you think your faith to your goal motivates you by itself?"

We all agreed 3 songs have achieved 50% of the target. Well Done!

The above exercise was done to encourage Terence could expand his successful story in music to other aspects of his life.

We all enjoyed today's QT..........................

"Mom, I want to do something for your research, like producing power point for topics that you are working with." Terence held me from releasing the QT. "I want to work for you for some pocket money."

"Well, I remember you did a wonderful power point for me 2 years ago about "The possible mission". I have just finished co-authoring a book about ParentCoach. I still like to look deeper in to lives about being a woman, elderlies and teenagers. How about doing a power point for me about what do teenagers like to talk about, work on and why."

"How much you will pay for my work this time?" Terence felt most interest to know the amount.

"HK$50 for 15 slides"

"Can you give a bit more?"

"Negotiation begins, right?"

"OK, let's make it at HK$70."

"a deal"

"When will you finish?"

"This afternoon."

"Are you sure? so quick!"

Terence immediate went into his room and started the work. After 15 minutes, he called me again.

"Mom, I have finished the cover. Please come and see whether this is what you want?"

I went to his room and found he was using very interesting background for the power point slide. I like it and said, "Good start, keep it up."

On the other hand, Michelle was working very hard in drawing some cartoon girl faces. I gave her an assignment to draw 2 girl faces by distinguishing theirs emotions with their eyes; one is smiling and the other is crying. She did well. I wonder how could she just using few different lines and shades to get it done.

Wednesday, July 20, 2005

唔好得個「講」字

James 2:14-26 Faith and Deeds

Both Terence and Michelle claimed that it's difficult to understand these scriptures. I think it might because it relates to some old testament stories. After my explanation, they came to better undersanding.

Terence said, " No lips service unless you put them in action."

"Can you quote an example?" Bonnie asked.

"I have been given by Dad a target score list of my GCE "O" Level examination. If I don't put them in action, my target will be a dead one."

"Well said. Did you put them in deeds?"

"Not really."

"I hope this scripture reminds you."

2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

Sunday, July 17, 2005

子女成人(仁)

今天Turner用了腓立比書第一章1-11節作講道,我發現其中有一節經文正好是我一向教導子女的信念及目標。

1:10 使你們能分別是非,作誠實無過的人,
........結滿了仁義的果了.........。

果子: 仁愛、喜樂、 和平、 忍耐、 恩慈、 良善、 信實、 温柔、 節制。加拉太書5:22-23

這已經很足夠了。

我謹此勸告各位父母,不要再追逐於單純知識的競技場上。它會使你的子女成為a replacable human。因為他/她毫無個人特色,正如Human Resouces 常用術語 replacment,有人離職,随時可以被別人替代。Sad! 看清楚,是作為父母的你把他們從小便放入這殘忍的replacable競技場上。為何不給他們多一些空間去認識自己及神給他/她的恩賜、給他們多一些空間去建立珍貴的「親子關係」和「與神的關係」。

找到聖經,找到智慧。
找到一間好教会,比考入Band One學校更有福氣。
父母們呀! Still Your Hearts, Stop Your Wars.
不要本物倒轉,否則,難怪你無時間享受你的子女。
他們天真、好奇、活潑、可愛、富創意、有動力.......our future leaders.

Tuesday, July 12, 2005

理清給與力量和決定

Terence asked me, "Why Jing Hung's Dad and Mom (BoBo) stop going to church?"

" I do not know about this. Where did you learn of it?"

"Peter told me when I visited his home yesterday. They are living in the same Police Quarter in Chai Wan. Peter said Jing Hung's Dad and Mom have some conflicts with church so they stop going to church. I thought they are very faithful christians and why ends up like this?"

"God always gives us free choice. Don't you remember Satun is always around us to tempt us. There could be many unforeseen traps through out our life even after we become a christian. By the way, how is your thought about going to teens."

Terence waved his head without any reply.

Bonnie continued, " Are you a christian now?"

"No."

"Right, you are not a christian now and there is always God's mercy to give you free choice to become a christian at your right time . Even I'm your mom, I am not in position to force you to become a christian only at my wish. It is your decision to love God and accept his grace on you. As a mom and a christian, I introduce to you what I feel most precious from God . By the way during the past 5 years in pre-teens, what do you enjoy the most?"

"Friendship."

"Who are your best friends?"

"Before was Steven. Now is Joshua and Peter."

"Anything more other than friendship?"

"A little bit of truth."

"Does it work in your life?"

"Yes. By the way, what is next after teens?"

"Campus."

"What is after Campus?"

"Single as an adult."

"Would it be OK even when I am an adult I still not a christian?"

"That is your choice."

Terence getting more open to talk on this subject and said, "After I go to teens, they will keep on asking me to study bible which I will feel most uncomfortable."

"Well, may be they will ask because they would like to know what you are thinking. You could honestly tell them where you are."

"True?" opened big his eyes.

"There'll be nobody force to study bible unless it is your own choice and decision. People around you are just try to help you."

"Well, then I will continue go to church."

"I think soon Uncle Lai will introduce to you what is teen's ministry and you could take the opportunity to ask him more about any of your queries."

Monday, July 11, 2005

審判與判斷(定斷)

James 2:1-13

I had QT with Terence only because Michelle went to school.

We both attracted by the word of "Judgment" and "Favoritism".

"Are you a judgmental person?" Bonnie asked Terence.

"No, I'm often not."

"I feel when we meet an unknown person for the first sight, it is very common that a kind of impression about that person will pop up in our mind. I see that as an impression more than judgmental. How about you?"

"If you expand that impression in to a further thoughts or engage in a conversation with someone with elaboration, it will easily become judgmental."

Bonnie curious to ask," Does judgment relate to something negative only? If I talk with my friend about an impression on a person with praises, will there be an appreciation than a judgment?"

"Could be."

"In v2:8 mentioned Love your neihgbore as yourself, it's not easy to do it everytime." Bonnie bear in mind about one of her friends and said.

"Why?" Terence asked.

Bonnie was surprised to hearing a question posted by Terence. "Well, sometimes our neighbore not necessary treat us well. When I felt hurt or being taken the advantage, I may judge my neighbore."

"Are we not talking at the situation we meet with an unknown person?"

"Sorry, I've gone too far." Bonnie still bear her friend in mind and felt out of the topic with Terence.

In this QT, Bonnie felt Terence has helped instead.

Friday, July 08, 2005

由服從轉化至(被)尊重

Terence flew on his own from Hong Kong to Vancouver when he was eight years old. He succeed in this trip for his strong desire in going back to Vancouver where he spent his most playful toddler to school child age. Afterwards, he told me that he was not really afriad of flying alone but the long flying hours was almost like a life long jouney - testing his patience and sense of security.

Terence was trained to ride on mini-bus and public bus on his own when he was 10 years old. On the first trial day, I saw him off at the Braemar Hill Terminal. He rode on bus 25 and Ben was already waiting for his get off at the Cloud View Road stop. Though there was only 4 stops in between - not a big deal, Terence gained his confidence to stand alone for the first time. Getting on a bus was not a problem with him but he was stuck on when to get off. He easily fell asleep when he rides on a bus (even today) and very very often he missed the stop until the bus reached the terminal. Well, he has to get off and ride on another bus to come home. I remember when he was 11, once it took him 3 hours to come home from Wanchai. He missed to get off the bus at Tien Hau to change for min-bus twice so he rode from Wanchai --> North Point --> Wanchai --> Tien Hau (then mini bus to reach home).

I learned how to "LET GO" when he was ten. I tend to let him depart from me and I just stay beside him at a distance. This distance has been extending as his age adds on. Now he is 15, he can go out completely on his own and able to find way to back home. He has his own schedule with his school friends and church friends. Some rules between us are (1) he must home for dinner not later than 7:30pm, (2) he must call me when he changes his schedule. He did well and always calls me when his way home from Causeway Bay, North Point or Taikooshing.

These few months, I feel it's time to transcedent from LET GO to TOTAL RESPECT.

Let go is a period to let him exercise his independent thinking and decision making. Yet, the ultimate decision is still on my hand. In short, Terence is still obey to his parents in a gentleman way (parents also exercise their discipline in a gentleman way) .

These days, I found that he has established his life value and that value wants a right to exercise freely as an individual. Great! Now is the time for me to learn how to respect a young adult. To me respect my own child requires lot of trust. I have to trust he is growing to be an adult, a leader for future. It's a life process that he must experience in order to be mature. Success and Failure are part of the growth. I see respect also involves lot of acceptance. I accept Terence as he is. I should not see him from a standard person point of view to fortfeite his uniqueness.

What I believe is:

To master knowledge and skill makes you a capable person.
To have passion with what you really like to do makes you a unique person.


Though now he is facing a challenge of going to teens or not. It's his decision. I'm happy that after a talk with Elaine and Pandora, I see Terence is a non-Christain. It's a time for a non-Christain young adult to experience his own life and understand the salvation through knocking his own door.

Humility comes before honor. Proverb 15:33


I have to humbly learning what God's teaching to me in this incident.

Sunday, July 03, 2005

行為の實踐

James 1:19-27

This week's QT was delayed to Sunday afternoon due to Bonnie has to depart for Shenzhen on Saturday at 7:00am. Yet, we all committed.

Michelle: "I picked v19 quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry. These days I'm easy to get angry for some small stuffs and roared "UUH...." From now onwards, I could remind myself: Why I'm angry? For what I'm angry with? By putting a little thoughts on those questions, I may cool down my anger."

Terence: "I have chosen v21 do not merely listen to the words, and to deceive yourselves. Do what it says. I would like to commit myself in continueing the QT."

Bonnie curiously asked, " what do you mean by continue, say for how long?"

Terence replied, "as long as it goes on." - shifted the responsibility to Bonnie.

Without putting any negative thought on Terence's response, Bonnie continued her sharing, "I like v27 to keep oneself from being pulluted by the world. The pure heart is light."

By taking the rest of the time, Bonnie suggested to set a goal for the upcoming Summer Holiday. Terence replied instantly, "I would like to complete my CD production. Though Kenji and Keein both will be away from HK in a different schedule, I strongly believe that we still can get it done because Keein has purchased a powerful MAC program. I have agreed with Victor that he can take most of the songs we composed for his band and I only take one for my band. I have another new song ready with me now. Well, I need to newly compose about 6 songs during the Summer Holiday."

"Are you going to spend some time on your sports because you need that for your body growth?" Bonnie asked.

"Mom, these days I lost my interest in Basketball. I don't feel enthusiastic when I played at the Braemar Hill Park yesterday."

"Don't you feel a balanced Summer Holiday benefits you all aroundedly?"

"I will put thoughts on this."

"How about your goal, Michelle?"

Michelle said, "Do my homework."

"I don't think that will occupy all your Summer Holiday, right. Yet, you need some fun time."

Terence added, "You better develope something as your hobby cum strength."

"Mom, I need more time to think of."

"Yes, take your time and make up a fun goal to enjoy."

In fact, after the Church, I have talked with Bal about schedule for our teens. Originally, I would like to take Terence and Michelle to join Hope's English Teaching Program at CheungKaKai. Benjamin did not agree due to his concern on our safety at the undeveloped place in China. Michelle felt disappointed as she was excited about being an English teacher for children in China. Terence did not show interest in this idea.

I told Bal that Terence has shown his resistance in joining the Teens Ministry. Bal encouraged me that there might be something I have to work on Terence and Myself. He expressed that Genesis did not express any of his thought about going to church. He rather conerns how to to help his kid to build friendship with church peers. Bal expressed that he likes to see Genesis can get along with Terence who is considered as easy going. He will try to arrange something for the teens during the Summer holiday. I'm happy that Bal always communicates with me about how we as christian parents can let our teens to building up closer friendship.

I bought Terence and Michelle some ice-cream when my way home. I and Terence had another quick touch on the conversation about teens ministry.

"Mom, one pre-teen also expressed to me that he has no interest for the teens ministry. Hey, don't talk to anyone about this. He said if his mon knows, she will kill him."

"Don't you think all these thoughts come out because you do not have a clear picture about what is the teens ministry and doubts creates fear?"

"Mom, I told him that you won't kill me, will you?"

Saturday, June 25, 2005

引誘與試探

Jame 1: 9-19

"Mom, QT this morning." while I was still in bed at 7:30am, Terence came in to my room and waked me up. Woow! what a surprise but encouraging wake up call, in particular it's from the mouth of Terence. After half an hour of morning self-caring, we began QT at the living room. Today the sky is the brightest after a week of stormy rain. I did not require reading glass to read the Bible words.

We began with a short recap on last week's learning and how well we've practiced them in our daily life. Terence said he began to pray everyday before bed. When I asked him what did he pray for, he said for a better sleep. I, then, reminded him that he has made decision to pray for wisdom. It sounded that he has forgot the theme. Michelle has nothing to share.

Terence began the sharing with v9-10.

"For v9 -The brother in humble circusmstances ought to take pride in his high position. I want to tell you how I'm practicing and experiencing this verse. When I walked in to Trever's band room, I did not boost how good is my band. Though they are comparatively weak in average, I would rather be hunber and tell them what makes my band being good in some areas. This works."

"How do you look at v10 about the rich?" I asked.

"Money creates competition. From there, boosting will take place to create conflicts."

Michelle shared v12-15.

"Before reading this verse, I though temptation comes from outside. However v14 tells me that "......each one is tempted when, by his own desire.". Now I came to understand it is because of myself."

"What tempt you the most?"

"Object."

"How would you like to do about this temptation issue?"

"Don't spend money on Objects!" Terence suggested.

"Well, I think I have to control myself, my desire." Michelle said quite determinely.

Bonnie shared v12.

"I have recognized that in order to be blessed, I have to be strong enough to accept trials - To stand the test instead of being fear and escape."

Michelle said, "I like the phase of TO STAND THE TEST."

"Well, how shall we commite ourself in these learnings?"

Terence: to keep on praying everyday for God's wisdom.
Michelle: to be able to stand the test.
Bonnie: to love God 1 step more.

The time control for aorund 15 mins was good and they still could concentrate and response clearly.

Thursday, June 23, 2005

終於也說了

When our way home after my mother's birthday dinner at Kowloon Bay, Terence asked me to go with him to Welcome for buying the body spray so we separated from Ben and Michelle. He got a big size Gillett Body Spray for HK$40.50.

We took MTR home as usual and on the way he talked a lot to me.

"Mom, I don't want to go to teens!!!!!!" Terence said with a reluctant tone. "Usually they have the BT on Saturday afternoon and then I could no more able to play music with my friends on Saturday."

"Is it possible for you to arrange the band practice prior to the BT?" I asked.

"Anyway, I don't want to go to teens! Saturday is my play time................"

"Well, do you want to stay at pre-teens until Michael and Brain all go to teens?"

"Yes, because I don't want to go to the Saturday stuff and get baptism. Stephan once asked me am I still going to church? They want you to get baptism."

I explained to Terence that, "It's not neccessary for you to get baptism unless that is what you want."

"I just dont know but that is my true feeling that I dont want to go to church. These days I go to church is simply because I can meet with my friends; Peter and Joushua."

"Terence, thank you for telling me your true feeling. Does it mean that you are getting less close to God?"

"Mom. it's my true feeling. I don't want to do bad things and I don't feel close to Satun."

"Then, do you really want to stop going to church in the near future?"

"That'll make people feel upset. I dont want to make them feel like that."

"Is it possible for you to discuss with them about how you feel and what you want to do about the Saturday BT schedule?"

"Mom, if I dont go every week that will border the others. I dont feel right doing that."

"Well, take more time to feel what you feel. We can talk more on this subject."

I have been seeing other pre-teens dropped off in the past few years, including Man Ho, Leo, Man Man, Kei Kei, Kar Hei. Now is my son telling me that he does not want to go to church. How I felt? No surpirse because he told me several times that he does not want to go to teens because of the Sat BT. But it's a fact that I heard from him about not wanting to go to church.

Shall I try to persuade him to stay or shall I let him make his decision and be responsible for the consequence too. I cannot stop anything to happen. At least I feel grateful that he is still honest to me and himself. I see God is testing him for his maturity to become a real young adult.

to be con't........

理清給與力量和決定

Sunday, June 19, 2005

智慧、忍耐、信心

James 1: 1-8

Terence: "If we have wisdom, there will be no doubt. And easier to succeed."

Bonnie: " Where comes the wisdom?"

Terence: "From God."

Bonnie: "What is your decision to get yourself be connected with that wisdom?"

Terence did not answer but holding up his hands in a gesture of prayer.

Bonnie: " How often do you pray in a day."

Terence respond by putting his thumb and first finger together to make a circle.

Bonnie: " What is your decision now?"

Terence: "I'll pray for the wisdom once a day before I go to bed." That sounds a good start for Terence.

Michelle: " I would like to share v4 (Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.). I have to learn completing its work."

Bonnie:" What's the benefit of completing the work?"

Michelle: "Most of the work we are doing are difficult and people tend to give up. I dont want to give up but must complete it."

Bonnie: "Well, your bold commitment sounds very powerful. Can you tell me more."

Michelle: " By going through the difficulties in the process of a work, I can learn a lot and which makes me mature. So that when same difficulty comes to me next time, I can handle it."

Bonnie: "It's my turn to share. I have picked v3 (because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.). Here teaches me that perseverance comes from faith in God. Am I believe God has such power to overcome the difficuties I'm facing? Am I believe God is looking after me? I know if I dont have faith in God, I will start to worry as v6 (he who doubts is like a wave of sea, blown and tossed by the wond.) It is good that it's a test, by which can remind me where I am.

Bonnie: " Well, what is the key word in these scriptures that we can use for the upcoming week for our spiritual growth?"

Terence: " Wisdom and Prayer."

Michelle : " Perseverance."

Bonnie: " Faith."

Ben was sitting in the living and I assumed he listened what we said and saw what we did.

Bonnie: " Did I overrun?"

Terence: " OK"

Michelle: " I found it's easy to have QT like this. It's simple and easy to understand. What we are doing on every Sunday is a bit too difficult to me and I could not understand."

Bonnie: " Well, that's where you can practice your perseverance."

新一頁的開始

I talked with Terence and Michelle on how they see their QT. It's no surprise that they only do QT on every Sunday before church.

I, then, suggested that usually adudlt chistians have their QT everyday, preferably in the freshest morning. Their responses were same - "impossible". I could understand the situation that Terence has to leave home at 6:40am.

"Well, shall we take one step a time? " I said.

"That sounds doable." - The conclusion is to increase the QT frequency from 1/7 to 2/7 in a week. They requested my support to have a 3-person group QT on every Saturday. We name it as a "15 Minutes QT".

Terence has no preference on what to read while Michelle suggested to read the New Testament just because it is "New". We have chosen a short book to start with - James.

一言驚醒夢中人

Dear parents of preteens,

'You were created to become like Christ' is the theme for the classes of Isd Central Preteens Ministry this summer. All the classes are based on the purpose #3 of the book 'The Purpose Driven Life'.

For your information, the preteens are usually divided into two groups according to their age when we are having class. Group A (oldermembers) includes Joshua, Peter, Terence, Michelle, Miko and Jessica. Group B's members are Jacky (Ho-yin), Michael, Brian, Chun-kit, Lok-hin, Rico, Leo and Bun.

Every Sunday (except those we do not meet at Wah-whui 華匯), all preteens are encouraged to have quiet time with us at the food court of Island Place (港運城) at 9 am. We also expect the Group A's preteens to start having their own plan for quiet time. Your encouragement, involvement and support are very essential and crucial influences to their building friendship with God.

Attached please find the schedule from June to August 2005 for your reference. Please note that we've also scheduled to have lunch with them on every 2nd Sunday. Please let us know if you are OK with it.

We look forward to having more contacts with you. Please feel free to communicate with us. Thank you for entrusting your children to our care.

Love,
Daniel, Renee, Steve and ElaineIsd Central Preteens Ministry
PS: Our contact phone numbers are --
Daniel Leung – 96436742
Renee Li – 92876226
Steve Lai – 94223640
Elaine Lai – 62886620